Sid Roth

LARRY:  Well I want to pause on that for a moment cause I want to take the next couple of minutes that we have together and just pray.

SANDRA:  Okay.

LARRY:  You and I just praying for the folks watching cause that’s the whole nature of this show. So I want to pray specifically I felt like the Lord put on my heart He wants to give people scriptures.

SANDRA:  Uh-huh!

LARRY:  He wants to give people promises. Words from His Word that will anchor them.

SANDRA:  Yes.

LARRY:  Like you were talking about so I’m just going to quickly share a prayer and then I’m going to just let you pray for the folks as well as we go into these themes. So Father, right now I pray for those watching, God, and I believe the Word of the Lord right now for you is God wants to give you a promise!

SANDRA:  Yes!

LARRY:  God wants to give you a Word from His Word! God wants to give you an anchor that will stabilize you while you are believing for complete healing! And God does not want you to give up! So Dr. Kennedy what do you feel like the Holy Spirit is just saying about that?

SANDRA:  Well you know I’ve got a whole lot of books here. I’ve written several books on scripture healing.

LARRY:  Just release some. Yeah.

SANDRA:  But again you have to find out, you know He says over in Matthew and Hebrews He says I healed them all.

LARRY:  Yeah.

SANDRA:  Now notice if He heals them all that means He heals you Sally and you Tom and you Dick and you Harry.

LARRY:  Yes.

SANDRA:  He is not missing you! He is not going to somebody and it’s not that He’ll heal your neighbor and God does not heal you based on how good you are!

LARRY:  Come on!

SANDRA:  God heals you based on how good He is!

LARRY:  Yup!

SANDRA:  God is a wonderful God. And you know that people have to understand that God is a good God! He’s not mad with them. He’s already done this. We’re not asking God to heal us. That’s where people have come… you know. No, I’m not asking God to heal me. I’m thanking Him that He has done it! He did it 2000 years ago! 

LARRY:  Yeah. Yup!

SANDRA:  And so I’m not asking Him to heal me. I’m praising Him for healing me!

LARRY:  Yes.

SANDRA:  He says I bore your sicknesses, in Isaiah! I carried your pains, in Isaiah! I was made sickness for you, in Isaiah! With my stripes you’re healed, in Isaiah! I will heal you, in Isaiah! All those just Isaiah! I bet when He says I know the thoughts I think about you and the thoughts are good and they have no evil attached to them. God is on your side!

LARRY:  Yes!

SANDRA:  For it is God who works in me both to do and will and do His good pleasure. What’s His will? Healing! What’s His good pleasure? Abundant living!   

LARRY:  That’s so good. And just to let you guys know, whooo, I feel like those are things that you can take to the bank! And just to remind you what can you do when you’re waiting to be healed?

SANDRA:  PRAISE!

LARRY:  What can you do when you pray and you’re waiting? We praise. We give thanks. I encourage you to give thanks for the partial breakthrough like you’ve received the entire breakthrough!

SANDRA:  Yes!

LARRY:  Every symptom that gets healed, everything small or big, give God thanks like the whole thing’s been healed because He wants you to be well!

SANDRA:  I mean this could be the doctor’s report.

LARRY:   That… yeah.

SANDRA:  And this could be the Bible!

LARRY:  That… yeah. (laughing) Yeah, yeah.

SANDRA:  You got to decide which one of them is going to rule!

LARRY:  Come on! And that’s the reality.

SANDRA:  You got to decide which one’s going to rule and we’re not saying this is not true. We’re not saying the doctor’s report’s not true. We’re not saying that. But we’re saying that greater is He that’s in us than he that’s in, you know, the world! And we’re going to put what God says on top of what the medical profession says! Now we thank God for the medical profession.

LARRY:  Yes.

SANDRA:  We work with the medical profession. We thank God for them. But we’re going to make the Great Physician Jesus Christ and we’re going to go and believe His Word!

LARRY:  That’s so good! Well Father, right now we pray for everyone watching and God, that they would take Your Word to the bank! That Your Word, Lord, would be their prescription for healing and that, Lord, they would be rooted and grounded in the integrity of what You say! No matter what comes against them! No matter what doctor’s report, or symptom or feeling, that Lord, Your Word would have the final Word when it comes to their healing in Jesus’ name! Amen! Amen!     

SID: Well you go into a lot of detail about the Court of Heaven [VIDEO BEGINS] in here, but in so many other ancient secrets. Speaking of ancient secrets, [VIDEO ENDS] you ‘ve learned how to tap into the portals of God. What – what is a “portal”, and what do you mean?

DAVID: Well a “portal” in Latin, “port” just means “door”; so it’s not something weird.

SID: So a “door”.

DAVID: Yeah.

SID: You know how to open the door.

DAVID: And some Christians say, “I believe in open heavens, but ‘portal’ sounds demonic or something”,

SID: Hm.

DAVID: which is ridiculous, because “portal” [CHUCKLES] just means “door” in Latin, and in –

SID: Huh.

DAVID: in French, or Thai. So open the “doors” or “windows” of Heaven; how do you know, so there’s different ways. Of course there’s praise and worship, there’s repentance, there’s fasting, there’s giving; but then there’s also SEASONAL portals, like being in the right place at the right time, like when I was in Israel during the Feasts, worshipping God. It’s like everything was lined-up because God does promise to visit also at certain SEASONS and times when you show up and praise Him.

SID: He calls them “set appointments”.

DAVID: Yeah! So when He shows up, the glory’s there – the “portal” is there – and He promises to show up at certain times if we show up.

SID: And you have gone to Heaven. Tell me the first time you went to Heaven.

DAVID: First time I went to Heaven I was in Bethel, Israel, and we were there with a tour group. We rented a bullet-proof v bus. Nobody wanted to go; the tour group didn’t want us to go. You know the tour agency.

SID: Um hm.

DAVID: They said it’s –

SID: Right.

DAVID: It’s “meshugganah” at the time; 2003.

SID: “Crazy”.

DAVID: 2003; you have to rent a bullet-proof bus; you have to have a security guard with a machine gun. You ‘ve got to pass Ramallah, go to the checkpoint, and you want to lay down there and try to get – okay, that’s crazy. And I said, “Yeah! I want to do it.” They said, “Well this is going to cost you more money”, and they tried to really discourage me. I said, “Okay, I’ll do it!” I was so desperate, because Genesis 28, this is “the gate of Heaven”, Bethel! I want to go check it out! Didn’t say “it was”; it said it “is the gate”!

SID: You didn’t care whether it was Palestinian or what!

DAVID: No!

SID: You just wanted to go to that doorway.

DAVID: Yeah! Sometimes you ‘ve got to risk your life to get the glory! [CHUCKLES]

SID: Okay.

DAVID: So we went over there; we laid on the ground. Someone played guitar, and I said, “Everyone close your eyes”, find a rock like Jacob did, “and just see what God shows you ! Maybe you ‘ll have a vision; maybe you ‘ll get taken to Heaven! I don’t know what’s going to happen, but we’ll – we’ll have interviews afterward.” [VIDEO BEGINS] So we laid down. I saw Jesus – Yeshua. I was taken up, and I saw the crystal sea. I saw the Messiah, Yeshua; His eyes were flaming like fire. I got closer and closer to Him. He looked at me, and He said, “Thank you for touching Isaac, my people.” He said two things to me: “I want you also to touch Ishmael, and the Muslims, [VIDEO ENDS] because they’re crying out for Me”; and number two, He said, “Please organize a conference for Me in Jerusalem”. So I came out of it, and I thought, “Well, that could have just been my mind; it could have been my imagination.”

SID: I understand. A lot of people get talked out of the supernatural.

DAVID: But then a few days later, a friend calls me and says, “Hey, we want to organize a conference in Jerusalem -“

SID: [CHUCKLES]

DAVID: “and in Bethlehem. We’re going to reach all these Arabs and Palestinians at Bethlehem, but we also or at – they’re actually, at the time, oh, I think they were Palestinian. by that time, but Arab-Israelis, “and we’re going to reach the Jews in Jerusalem. But we want YOU to organize the conference in Jerusalem, because you have more of the Jewish connection.” And I said, “That’s so crazy. I would normally say ‘No’ because I don’t live in Israel, but the L Messiah just asked me those exact words, ‘Could you organize a conference in Jerusalem’!” And then that – and then that week – the following week – all the doors opened to the Arab-Muslim world. I was invited to Dubai, Qatar, Bahrain; within a few months I was in all those countries!  Indonesia opened up, –

SID: So you did not doubt.

DAVID: Abu Dhabi –

SID: You did not doubt that it was God, –

DAVID: I mean you –

SID: and you did not doubt you were in Heaven. You said something interesting to me. You said that once you have your first visitation to Heaven, it like it makes it easier if you want to go to Heaven again.

DAVID: Exactly.

SID: But let me ask you this: Is it do you want to go, or is it only as God so wills? I mean when Paul said he was in “the third heaven”, –

DAVID: Um hm.

SID:  do you think he had something to do with it, or it was just a sovereign – your first time it was really a sovereign thing.

DAVID: Yeah, but it was faith, too, because I really wanted to go to Bethel, because I wanted to see what Jacob experienced.

SID: Right.

DAVID: So I think it’s partly, like it says, “By faith Enoch … was not”, so even that. So I think a lot of it is faith; you have faith and hunger for the supernatural. Some people just get it; they die, and then went to Heaven; and they don’t – they get in a car accident; they weren’t asking for it. But others that don’t have to die; I think you can ask, because it does say you can “come boldly to the throne”, “the veil [has been] rent”; we have access to Him. So I was just hungry for – there’s got to – maybe there is something to this. Well in my case, I asked the Lord. But if you ‘ve been to Heaven – a lot of people will tell me, “I’ve been to Heaven 20 years ago; never been back.”

SID: Hm!

BILL:  Well in the Latter Rain Movement or the Restoration people didn’t believe much in the individual prophet. You had to be a prophetic presbytery. Three or 4 ministers prophesying over people.

KYNAN:  I see.

BILL:  But I still prophesied individually to different people cause when I moved from Washington down to San Antonio Texas and started teaching in a Bible college there. But then God did something that was very unusual. Very transforming. It’s where I’m at today because of what happened in 1973. 

KYNAN:  Wow. Wow.

BILL:  Twenty years later from ’53 to ’73 I just prophesied now and then. But in ’73 I was in Sacramento California. Dropped in to where a young man I had taught 4 years in Bible College was holding a revival and he asked me if I’d… He had told people that God wants to speak to you. But I don’t prophesy. He says you’re the only one I know that prophesies and here you are. Unexpectedly dropped right in.

KYNAN:  Wow!

BILL:  And he said would you ask God if he’d give you words for some people. So I did. And it started about 9 o’clock. I started prophesying and got about 15 or 20 I thought okay, that’s the maximum so I stopped and then we just formed a blessing line, you know a “fire tunnel” or whatever they want to call it.

KYNAN:  Yeah. Uh-huh.

BILL:  And so I stood at the head there and the first one I laid hands on, man! Flashes of revelation came of their calling, ministry, what they’re going through, what God’s going to do for them. 

KYNAN:  Wow!

BILL:  And I saw all of that.

KYNAN:  Just like that!

BILL:  Just banging them! It was just like a volcano.

KYNAN:  Bubbling up.

BILL:  Bubbling up and in. So I said down boy, down boy. You had your quota, you know. Push that one on through. Then the next one and then same thing. But the third one it felt like my volcano was going to erupt! And I said God, I’m not trying to make this happen! What do you want me to do? Do you want me to just lay hands on people and everyone you give me a word for and prophesy to them? 

KYNAN:  Yeah. Yeah.

BILL:  And He said, spoke to me in my Oklahoma lingo, He said “Yeah, boy! Let ‘er rip!”

KYNAN:  Let ‘er rip!

BILL:  And so I laid my hands on! (laughing)

KYNAN:  And now let me ask you now, now and we’re going to talk in a little bit about the restoration of the Church. How did that experience really lend itself to God talking to you about the restoration of the Church?

BILL:  Well they’re really not that connected because it was the 6 years that I attended the restoration teaching in Crescent Beach Bible College just below Vancouver Canada when I pastored in Yakima Valley, in Washington State. I drove up there every year and there was an Apostle Reg Lozelle did teaching and others did teachings, some of the Apostles from Edmonton and different places and they taught on the restoration and that was the first time the revelation came.

KYNAN:  Came to you.

BILL:  That restoration, there’s been a restoration. Before that, that what we call now the Protestant Movement was just a revival. The Evangelical Movement was a move of God. They had moves of God, revivals, awakenings. 

KYNAN:  And all that, yeah.

BILL:  But they didn’t see any connection!

KYNAN:  Well Dr. Hamon, what we’re going to do in just a moment we’re going to come back but I want you to talk more about the restoration of the body of Christ and to those watching we’re going to go deeper into this because I want you to hear this revelation that is really life-changing! It’s going to affect the way you interact with the body of Christ from now on! Just a moment we’ll be back on “Something More!”

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KYNAN:  Hey friends! We’re back with Dr. Bill Hamon, a pioneer in the prophetic movement and we’re talking about the power of the Holy Spirit and the restoration of the Church. Dr. Hamon, on our last segment you were talking about how God began to walk you through this process really through teaching you and you talk about prophetic presbyteries and the experiences you begin to have.

BILL:  Yeah.

KYNAN:  And how that led you to this place of getting this revelation of the restoration of the Church. Could you share more about that?

BILL:  Yeah. In 1955 I started teaching on the restoration of the Church. A very minimal deal but then it kept growing and growing. Then I taught it. Then I wrote the book on “The Eternal Church” which covers the origination, the deterioration and the restoration of the Church. Out of the 400 pages, 173 is on the restoration of the Church. 

KYNAN:  Hmm!

BILL:  And I’ll explain what restoration means here in just a moment.

KYNAN:  Okay.

BILL:  And then I started teaching on that all the way around the world. And I went to the first time in South Africa and then distributed books there. And so what the restoration of the Church is people have to understand that the Church started out victorious.

KYNAN:  Yes.

BILL:  You know apostle’s demonstrating the miracles. The Book of Acts is the foundation, the doctrine.

KYNAN:  Absolutely.

BILL:  And the manifestations for the New Testament Church.

KYNAN:  Yes, Sir.